Has Solskjaer been ‘shocked’ by Tottenham’s pasting?

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Has Solskjaer been ‘spooked’?
Daniel Storey has written about his idea of Ole being “shocked” by the 6-1 and mainly telling his players to not attack anybody else for the remainder of the season in case of loss.

I wish to current a unique facet of the scenario. First, is there any distinction between Ole being shocked by one consequence and Pep selecting to not go out against United once they played us at PL, realizing what occurred the last time City did it (twice) in our against last season? City push their backs as excessive as they go against virtually each team. In opposition to United in each video games this season, they waited for the proper moments to unfold and have been extra centered on not taking part in to United’s strengths, the counter. Nearly each team is aware of this about United, in order that they change their techniques accordingly. The point I am making an attempt to make is that United, or another team for that matter, do not should play their techniques aside from what the opposite team does. No matter taking part in fashion you select, different teams have the choice of taking part in in a means that neutralizes you.

On the moment, United are usually not adequate to dominate these video games and have moved away completely from just making an attempt to counteract (which was very efficient last season). This change has resulted in higher PPG total for the season, however worse outcomes against the bigger teams. United are usually not superb at dominating video games (but) as a result of we now have solely began making an attempt to play this fashion this season. Mourinho definitely did not try to dominate video games of this nature, and last season we solely played defense and then counteracted. Mainly, on the highest level, against the Huge 6 or teams with prime quality players, it’s troublesome to dominate video games, and the change in fashion of play just isn’t small so it should take time to develop. Additionally, Rashford, Martial, James, and Greenwood are all nonetheless trophy young players.

So why is Ole making an attempt to get United to play differently? Clearly as a result of that is a extra sustainable means of incomes issues in the long term (or no less than Ole believes it, and I agree with it). However, to be sincere, we’re not apt to play another fashion apart from counteracting with the players we presently have. Fred and McT aren’t really going to dominate the midfield and our forwards are far too inconsistent / have bad choices. We’re additionally taking part in with out our best CM (within the type of Pogba) and our best CF proper now. Bruno is marked with a man fairly heavy wherever he goes on the field, and there isn’t a fixed menace from virtually anybody else on the moment that Mou will surely have gotten us to sit down back and counter, however for now, United is making an attempt to discover ways to play a unique fashion. I like that we’re no less than making the trouble to manage these “Huge Video games”. IMO, it is also an evidence for the chaotic, inconsistent and unpredictable nature of United’s video games and our season as a complete. With that in thoughts, I do not assume our document against the ‘Huge 6’ this season is as a lot a tragedy as it’s portrayed. Additionally, we’re rising 1.92 points per recreation this season regardless of a a lot worse document against the Huge 6 quite than 1.73 ppg last season after we had a significantly better document against the Huge 6. This enchancment is basically due to the change in our fashion of play.
MM, Man United, India

Do folks like Roy Keane as a pundit?
I wish to start this pretty prolonged e-mail by making a number of issues clear:

1. I’ve an enormous respect and admiration for Keane as an individual and a player.
2. This isn’t as a result of I’m a fan of Spurs and really feel upset at his feedback as a result of Spurs have a standard team. We have now loads of frequent players I agree.
3. I understand that this query additionally relies upon on the private desire of what you need out of a bundle, together with Keane being employed to precise his opinion.

Do folks like Roy Keane as a pundit? Personally I do not. It’s miles from the worst, definitely there are a lot of pundits who’re a lot weaker, some who’re solely there to be avid followers of their former golf equipment offering little else or discovering it hard to speak not to mention categorical an opinion. Many folks, together with myself, are naturally extra prone to respect Keane’s views as a pundit due to who he’s and what he achieved compared to different former players.

Over the past 10 years, there was a move to extra in-depth evaluation by pundits of techniques, methods and statistics – characterised by Neville, Carragher and their work on MNF. Personally, that is one thing I really get pleasure from not solely in football however throughout different sports. I had an argument with a friend lately (Man Utd fan of Cork no much less) after we each learn a web-based piece about Keane’s feedback that Liverpool “Evil Champions”. The piece steered that Keane’s feedback have been nonsensical, what even ‘bad champions’ meant and that Keane could be extra attention-grabbing if he gave his ideas, for instance, on why Thiago has struggled as a former midfielder great. Once more, personally, I agreed that I might quite hear Keane’s ideas on such subjects. My friend argued that Keane stored issues easy and centered on the basics of the sport – work fee, vitality, ardour, starvation, want.

These fundamentals are undoubtedly important to success in sport however I typically really feel today that pundits lose me when all they speak about is with out a lot tactical evaluation. It has been a big achievement for Sky’s to rent Keane for the amount of interest, debate and viewership it brings. What number of instances have the phrases “HEATED DEBATE” been used within the title of movies that includes Keane, and what number of thousands and thousands of views they’ve delivered to Sky throughout YouTube and social media. Keane is field workplace leisure, one thing he is aware of himself and I feel performs an element. He’s employed to precise his views, he has no accountability to present tactical evaluation except he additionally needs. Whereas it makes for great TV to listen to Keane say he boxed the head off De Gea or rolled his eyes at Gary Neville, I am uninterested in it. Unusual to listen to if others agree.
Fionn, Dublin. (Maintain Jose Out)

Ideas United v Chelsea
I discovered your Article 16 conclusion on the Chelsea v unification match could be very unusual.

You wait till the end of 9 to debate essentially the most definitive a part of the struggle with the United penalty occasion and then just brush via it so it did not occur or did not matter. Then go on hammering United for not scoring. Fairly certain a well-deserved punishment would have helped.

With two similar, flawed teams, these form of choices fully outline a recreation and to shine it, just feels bizarre.

Moreover, Mounts spontaneously kicks out Fred, who ought to have been red within the fiftieth minute. This was a bit like a Maguire v v Chelsea kick that Chelsea followers nonetheless speak about and a number of media retailers have written at size claiming that the non-red card defines the sport, I agree along with her.

United can now add this recreation to Shef United & West Brom video games the place the on-field ref has made the wrong name and then conditioned by VAR. That is 7 points. In the event that they went in our favor and to be sincere all of them needs to be, we might discover ourselves in an unlikely title race (which we would not have received). You can even throw in that metropolis v Villa’s misguided decision to make it even tighter.

And but, regardless of all of this, it’s nonetheless generally written and acknowledged by opposition managers that United will get all favorable choices. When United will get choices, we’re too handled to articles that overview these choices within the best element, like your article last year whenever you quashed all unified penalty choices, however once they go against us, they just get brushed off like they ‘re essential.

I do not know if Matt Stead likes United or not and frankly I do not care, I wish to learn balanced instructional articles the place the big points are mentioned and allotted by good football writers okay. Apparently, all the foremost problems with yesterday’s recreation have been dismissed.

The penalty concern, mounting a possible red card, Lindelofs glorious performance, Tuchels missed a possibility by not taking part in velocity and as a substitute selecting to target DDG’s reluctance to come for crosses and thus play Giroud & Ziyech, United’s precise quantity 9 deficit continue to cost them.

As a separate final point, I concluded that I do not get pleasure from football as a lot as VAR as a substitute. VAR brings a (misguided) perception that typically the proper decision is made, nevertheless, it solely will increase the annoyance when completely different choices are made on related points every recreation.

Lee Mason is the one millionaire
Chris Bridgeman, I am afraid you have allowed your self-confessed hatred of VAR to cloud your judgment of Saturday’s occasion.

Just one man is in charge and that’s the man who has proved over the months and years to be, as Nuno Santos paid £ 25,000 to distract, ineligible as a referee (and he says one thing to be seen extra incompetent amidst this present award customary PL !!)… The one and solely Lee Mason!

Incompetence No. 1 – inform Dunk that he can now take a quick free-kick when the WBA remains to be establishing all of their defensiveness.

You rightly point out that this isn’t the present interpretation of the law and subsequently mustn’t have said sure.

Incompetence No. 2 – after telling Dunk he can take it fast, he then backtracks and blows his whistle the 2nd time. You may argue that that is his redress for his preliminary mistake; however I say it is just a man who has no thought what to do !!

Incompetence 3 – permit Dunk to persuade him to change his thoughts once more and now GRANT the goal to present !!!! I imply severely, this man is far more weak-minded than Storm Trooper !!! That is the goal you’re searching for !!!!!

VAR, whom Chris desires in charge for this utter mess, would not become involved till Mason virtually takes his f ** kwittery to unprecedented ranges and awards a ridiculously unfair goal !! If something, VAR is the savior of the scenario. Their reasoning could also be silly and really feel fashioned (it isn’t, the moment a whistleblower blows within the Acts is the end of each scenario and it at all times has been), however no less than they got here to final appropriate conclusion !!!
Paul (Spurs), T.Wells

First issues first, to Chris Bridgeman, Kingston upon Thames, you ask “Does anybody assume, for a moment, that Lee Mason, in these circumstances three or 4 years in the past, wouldn’t have referred to as back play and get the kick resold? ” and mainly blame all of the scenario squarely on the feet of VAR. To me, you appear to miss or neglect one crucial piece of data: Lee Mason dominated out the goal. VAR introduced him back and pointed out that he had blown the whistle a second time earlier than the ball crossed the road. The goal was not denied as a result of the keeper was not set, he was denied as a result of Mason for no matter reason determined to blow the whistle a second time. (Additionally, the English cuddle had damaged up earlier than the penalty kick for Wales, the English winger on the opposite side was already back in defensive place when the kick was taken – some English defenders have been sluggish to achieve their place)

This brings me to my subsequent point. I do know folks don’t love comparing sports, however football might be taught from sports, corresponding to rugby, which have the mic’d references to the printed (and even the NFL the place the referees publish to the group within the stadium why penalties are given). The difficulty, he said, round Luke Shaw and Stuart Attwell would by no means have occurred if everybody might hear what the ref was saying. Lewis Dunk pointed out that he has to go out and face the media however Lee Mason doesn’t. Once more, if the reference is given to the printed, the ref wouldn’t really be wanted to confront the press as a result of we already know what he said and the reasoning behind it.

I do know the big problem with that is that the completely different football authorities don’t desire the mic’d references as a result of then everybody would hear the abuse they get from players throughout the recreation , but when the references truly punished aggression as they have been alleged to, that may be eradicated pretty shortly as well.
Jerry MUFC

Barca County to Arteta
View experiences that Arteta is within the pipeline for Barcelona.

If he did, following what he obtained into with Arsenal, I might know comprehensively that he was a masochist.

That membership just isn’t as a lot a tire fireplace as an unverified wildfire in Australia. They’ll expose monetary irregularities there for the following decade.
Tom, Walthamstow

Factual weekend
One other fateful weekend for English football. Brighton are mugged, and that might have an effect on them staying within the league. Bad to be sincere, how can an awarding customary stay so poor. VAR is meant to assist not trigger extra and extra aggro. I do not assume it helps most references in all probability did not play any form of football so I do not really perceive the sport, however it will get ridiculous. Once more within the Chelsea / United recreation, it is in all probability a penalty on the balance of how they’ve been put, whether or not folks prefer it or not, you may’t change the foundations halfway via a season as a result of it isn’t A level taking part in field then, just like the fa cup, VAR can solely be used on a serious league, the entire foundation of the competition just isn’t truthful and equal in order that’s actually the point. The England recreation turns into a joke. I do know loads of issues are primarily based on opinions, however how many individuals can get the wrong opinion once they can see it’s about 40 instances past me.

Football is damaged…
Watching the premiership this season has been horrible. Sure, we are able to blame the pandemic for many of it, however largely for lack of supporters. Football integrity is upheld by the followers and with out the followers, dishonest, performing play and so forth has grow to be rather more frequent.

Yesterday the Manchester United manager said all however said there was a conspiracy against his side that had been supported by his captain over latest weeks and Luke lost yesterday.

That is horrible for football. The problem is nobody is holding these guys accountable. Would Maguire rashford fern and so forth, float round on the ground like a classic neymar if 50,000 within the stands have been taking a look at them. Possibly however not practically half as a lot.

I for one cringe now whereas watching some teams within the premiership. Like Maguire diving last week, he is a 6’5 center back who has been in talks for England captaincy and exhibits a personality like that ??? It is embarrassing, I can not keep in mind loads of center followers diving.

No team is with out its ‘play actors’ and it spoils football. A massive problem might be the worst for it and United media paints a story that what they’re doing is completely acceptable. It spoils the sport and I can not await followers to be allowed back to the ground to carry these players accountable.

Johnny Nic
Glorious article @JN, really introduced out the salient points. It is unusual to listen to that some revenue from abuse is so senseless, and raking within the money anyway.

The article mentions that closing the feedback might additionally imply missing out on the great things. Maybe, for the sake of holiness and integrity, that is what needs to be achieved. As a result of, till we start speaking for ourselves within the struggle, the abuse will continue.

The greatest accountability, nevertheless, lies with those that assemble and watch struggle, quite than break it, and those that create a path for evil to flourish. Certainly, the love of cash does unusual issues to the soul of man, and those that are regular but quietly discover leisure needs to be robbed of another person’s misery, and those that are silent needs to be challenged to talk up too.

Glorious article, it was coronary heart warming to learn, and the anger was pouring in.
IyanuOluwa Tokede

One can solely surmise that John Nicholson has by no means learn the each day lunchtime characteristic of a preferred football web site that watches media exercise and typically criticizes journalists, and could inadvertently have a hand in retaining these on fireplace social media that takes issues too far.

Or perhaps he did and selected to disregard it.

Crystal Palace

John Nicholson’s newest books have launched the idea that top flight football on free-to-air tv will encourage extra kids to play football and reap the well being advantages of being energetic. I can not think about having video games like yesterday’s assembly of Crystal Palace and Fulham in thoughts, except it makes sense “oh, Palace is on, let’s go for a stroll as a substitute of watching this journey”. That is a bit harsh on the Cottagers, who created some respectable probabilities and stored Gary Cahill and Vicente Guaita busy.

Palace appeared to be approaching this recreation with all the passion of an educational child being made to run cross country in PE. This was one thing to endure and get via with as little effort as doable. This was summed up perhaps halfway via the second half, when a possible counterattack was neutralized as Luka Milivojevic walked the ball via midfield, permitting the acreage of house forward to shrink. Or maybe by Patrick van Aanholt, whose forwards operating from left-back often offered beneficial help to Wilfried Zaha, however who appeared to spend most of Palace’s time in possession standing in his stand nonetheless. The “unnamed Champions League side” might be keen on his providers for subsequent season, probably narrowed down as he’s a player you may simply think about transferring to Turkey.

In a means, I am glad there was a possibility for different folks to see what Palace followers are irritated about, and all the weather have been there. Absolutely the lack of attacking effort for lengthy durations; the way in which Roy Hodgson responded was to take away the one player with the potential to fireplace one thing, and replace him with a defensive midfielder; the way in which they strategy every recreation in the way in which {that a} non-league team faces a Premier League membership within the FA Cup, uncomfortable with all the eye they’re getting. In some methods, he appears to be utilizing the shortage of followers – who will surely be vocal of their dissatisfaction – to bask in his penchant for vicious football. Or perhaps he is doing it to get the trash video games out of the system in order that when followers can come back, issues are significantly better, a football model of the theater’s poor practice, maximal performance.

The BBC even handled these complaints with the predatory references for “watch out what you need” when discussing who will take over from Hodgson when his contract ends, referring to Charlton Athletic and Alan Curbishley. What’s forgotten about that scenario is that Curbishley agreed to not renew his contract to take some time off from football, and the Addicks turned first to Iain Dowie, then Les Reed and Alan Pardew , which I do not assume can be a problem for him Palace. Just in case the message “keep on with what you already know or who is aware of the league” is just too refined, the BBC even had Mark Hughes within the studio, giving extra credence to podcast idea On the Bridge he would be the subsequent man in cost at Selhurst Park (hello Mikey).

Subsequent for the Eagles, they welcome Manchester United. It will both be blood, or extraordinarily humorous to somebody.
Ed Quoththeraven


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